Tuesday, March 1, 2011

Color coordination


Love this photo! Where have I seen this girl before? Is she in other fan photos? I think she and Paul make a nice couple!

20 comments:

  1. Going by Pauls hair, jumper and shirt and trousers its the fan club poster day,Feb 68,ie the "Not Lady Madonna session"!

    stephenmcg

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  2. This is my best friend Denise Werneck, also from Rio, who planned our trip to London and went a few weeks ahead of me. The photo was taken by our friend Lucy outside EMI Studios and I was there too. I wish people would stop scanning photos that don't belong to them and posting them online. It is REALLY disrespectful to the people who took them. I have TONS of fan photos that are beautiful and it would be a pleasure to share with all of you, but I just don't think it's fair to do that to my friends, or even people I traded with and can't even remember who they were. It's just a really bad feeling for me and many of my friends when we find out our photos have been placed online without our consent - it hurts! I'm not blaming you Sara, you only post what's already out there. By the way, I took a photo of Paul right after that moment, he is holding a paper flower someone gave him. I took two other great photos of Paul and Denise at different times. And the two of us are still good friends.

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  3. `Stephenmcg, what and when is the session you're talking about? The 'not Lady Madonna session'? I don't know this one.

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  4. You bugger Sara, you beat me to posting it! :-) these turned up on ebay Lizzie, no mention of who took them, also with this photo is your photo of Paul holding the flower, i'll hold off posting it out of respect to you, as i say on my blog, if any photo's turn up that you don't want on there just let me know, it's hard to know who's photo's are who's, especially when on ebay, i have no problem with my photo's i've taken being swapped, but as with ebay it sucks when they are sold, this just happened with a friend of mine who had my photo's, i asked who gave them to her, happy that she had them, then she told be she purchased them at Beatlefest .. not in the spirit of it at all.

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  5. Wait, I don't understand, if you take a photo, don't you have the negative? How do other people end up with your picture and selling it on ebay if you haven't even posted it online?

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  6. One of the the blog posters both here and at the Beatles photo blog, Gina, is who has been scanning and selling her photo collection on ebay are were many recent photos (including this one) has came from. She bought these photos from fan magazines and is having some money trouble and is selling the photos she has had since the '60-'70's on ebay to help out.

    I get super excited whenever I see fan photos I have never seen before. This particular photo is one I think I have stared at for an hour with a huge smile on my face. The thought that it being online being hurtful is something I personally don't understand, but I can respect it. I hate the idea that these photos will someday disappear because they were never shared with the public. But as I said....I respect the views of the fans and I it is not my intentions at all to hurt anyone. I will remove any and all photos. I also will not post any of the "new" ones Gina has posted on ebay.

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  7. Dear Sara and Tammy, please don't think that I am mad at you. You know how much I love you and how much I enjoy your blogs. Once a photo is scanned and placed on ebay, it doesn't belong to anyone anymore, it makes no difference if you post it or not, because thousands of people will have copied them anyway. I totally understand Gina's reasons for selling her photos, but you all must understand that us - the fans who took the photos - have this special love for them, like "our children", and hope to one day put them together in a book (like I am doing) and tell the whole story about those times. But... the way things are going, with so many photos being scanned and placed online, I don't know what will happen. I know that it is a mutual feeling among us fans who were there in the late 60's: we are not happy when we find our photos online for the first time. I don't know one single person who doesn't care. It may be hard for you to understand, but for us it is a fact.

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  8. Oh Lizzie, I do not think you are mad at anyone. Just being honest, it is a topic that I have a hard time totally understanding. As I said, I respect your feelings and I do have several photos in my collection that I will not post out of respect for the person who asked me not to post it. And Lizzie you are correct...I have seen the photos from ebay that Gina posted yesterday all up on Flickr tonight. So it doesn't take long before things get out!

    I just hope you and the other fans know that many of us who weren't there find so much joy in seeing your special photos.

    by the way, is your friend in this photo a Paul fan? They really do make a cute couple!

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  9. How the day after session was printed in Beatles Monthly was that the pictures were from "Lady Maddona" but as this is the day after Lizzie sang i e post Ringo on Cilla ie no Ringo moustache it was then ,in a forum,named the "not Lady Madonna"!!

    Is the suggestion for photos not to be shared?
    DO we stop scanning or saving anything,as there are copyright issues too-should we all just look at what we have at home and not have this activity on the net at all-shall we all draw the line where we choose?
    Is it because we are not "special" enough to look?

    stephenmcg

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  10. I will put "scnned for ebay" across any photos that I think might be a problem.

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  11. Yes, Sara, Denise was a devout Paul fan. They do look cute together! Please, stephenmcg, don't be ridiculous in saying you might not be "special" enough to look. I never read such nonsense in my almost 60 years of life. The reason why some of the photos Denise and I and many of our friends took are on the internet today is because we shared them with our friends and pen pals all over the world and people are now scanning them and selling them. I am working and can't spend much time on this right now. I told you how I feel about it and I know many of my friends share the same feeling. This is it for now.

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  12. It's an understandable thin line: I would feel protective about photos I took appearing online, especially photos that show my unique moment with a Beatle.

    But as each decade passes, we see just how important the Beatles were, how they are destined to be part of history, no question. They'll be remembered.

    So every little new fan photo that turns up is an invaluable artifact, and should be preserved, archived, studied, looked after. For those fans who weren't there in person, each new photo reveals something everso slightly new, and often candid, about the Beatles.

    It's tricky. Anything goes on the internet. And if you're in the business of trying to protect the copyright on something, then good luck. But if the alternative is locking them away till you die, then that's not so good either.

    Look at the photo album Jesse Ed Davis's ex has——an amazing and unique collection that's rotting away in a horrible 70's photo album, when really it should be given over to historians to archive properly.

    Amen.

    CB

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  13. The date on this photo is February 3rd, 1968. It's right outside the left gates of EMI Studios.

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  14. The other alternative is Hayward or Tracks who acquire these and sell them in books.
    Surely what Sara and Tammy do is more honourable?
    LB
    I used the word special because if you feel its okay to say the Beatles were your children then Ill follow that train of thought.
    Do you like to see pictures you havnt seen before within these blogs and as you do why are you normally not concerned about the source.
    And if you were lucky enough to be there,talk to them,get autographs,sing in the studio why not allow us who were not to see photographs?
    You do not have to post any you have if you do not wish too and as you want to release a book do you not realise that the visitors to these 2 sites are your target buyers,we await it,we like photographs and stories about the Beatles
    hence the blogs.

    Yours sincerely
    stephenmcg

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  15. stepehnmcg, I don't know Hayward but I do know Tracks and have known Paul Wane since the 80's, when I lived in New York and started going to Beatlefest. In my couple of years in London from 67 to 69 I saw TONS of photos taken by my friends which have not surfaced and I'll never forget, since photos are my passion (I am a professional photographer with extensive work in the musical field here in Brazil and have a project of a 250-page coffee table book of unpublished photos of Brazilian musicians being prepared for next year). Some of these Beatle friends have passed away. I have been urging everyone to do SOMETHING with their photos, either selling them to a company like Tracks who will eventually make a book and share it with the world or write down their stories and try to publish them. There are people like myself doing that right now, and you will eventually hear about it. A few years ago I convinced a friend who was there in 1969 to sell her beautiful photos to Tracks and now they are in a safe place and will eventually be seen by everyone. I have spent a reasonable amount of time (so far with no success) trying to convince another friend who has amazing photos to sell them, since she's apparently not going to write about those days or use them in any way. Many of her photos have surfaced on the internet, starting, as usual, on eBay, and she was quite unhappy about it. For years I have been on a mission to try and make these photos available to the world, as I am totally aware that they are a part of the Beatles history and shouldn't end up in the garbage when we're gone. How could I possibly consider The Beatles "my children"? I meant THE PHOTOS, not the band. You have to understand that some of us would like to share our photos but tell the stories behind them and that people know who took them - that doesn't happen when they're scanned and placed online. And yes, I do know people who visit these photo blogs are the potential buyers of my book, and, believe me, I am working extremely hard to make it the best way possible, to make ALL my photos fit in there, to tell the stories behind them as accurately as possible. I always felt like I was among friends here and in Tammy's blog, that I could write anything that came to my mind, but I now see that is not correct. I have to watch my words and cannot be honest about my feelings in case I upset anyone. That's a shame. I don't know how to function like that.

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  16. I've been to Paul Wane's table at Beatlefest and he always has tons of 1967 reprint snapshots for sale. Lizzie, you are in some of them. I would assume those are the ones your friend sold. Are those off limits, too?

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  17. anonymous, those are the photos Paul has been buying from my friends and he sells them because he has the copyright (they sold them with the negatives). Whatever has already been scanned and placed online will be passed along worldwide in minutes and that's it. As I said before, once someone has scanned a photo and placed it online, there is nothing else to be done, it's going to be all over the place whether the photographer likes it or not. Recently a friend of mine was extremely upset about her photo being in a blog; I told her to relax because that's the way it is today. Some of the photos I took have been posted in this blog, in Tammy's and several others. I have NEVER asked anyone to take them off, and never will. I usually just say it was taken by me and give a date and place and identify the fans around, if I can. When you say "are those off limits too" it seems like I own them, and I don't. If I have no control over the photos I took and people scan and place online - and Paul Wane has told me many times when he buys photos from people they will tell him they took them and he knows it's not true because we have been communicating for 20+ years, helping each other out with dates and details and he knows my photos - what I could I possibly do about photos that people took and I am in?

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  18. About the above photo: I just looked in my book. I had looked at the actual print of the photo where it said the 3rd, but in my book (which are my diaries) it says the 8th. Among other things, it says "Paul came walking (to the studios). He left at 9:30 and was going to walk home but Mal gave him a lift. A friend took a photo of Paul and Denise. George left at 10:30, Ringo shaved his moustache and left with John at around 12:00. Ringo said they're going to India sometime next week. John said "C'est fini" and made some funny voices". It makes sense, since the photo was taken outside the studio gates, which means he walked, otherwise, he would have been coming out of his car in the parking lot.

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  19. Well I must first apologise to Tracks,I did buy the prevous 2 books but was never wholly convinced they were either homourable ie were not just buying copies as opposed to negatives,or sincere about it, a George 67 picture captioned Feb 29th-you dont even have to be a Beatle fan to see whats wrong with that!
    As i wrote before on Im sure behalf of all who visit T and S and more besides we eagerly await such a book ie with the stories ,and a bit more on dates(sorry Carol B good as "Waiting ..."was it was a bit vague on detail sometimes) we just wish it was sooner,i e those youve asked have had long enough to decide so press on.
    Avoid Genesis they are too expensive!!!

    This conversation is also available in stereo,other channel at Tammys place!!

    stephenmcg

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  20. They say " a beatles picture is worth a thousand words" This particular one is every bit of that!

    jOjO

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