Multi-Media McGear (1974)

 Multi-Media McGear (O.K. Mike?)

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Ray Hammond (editor)

Beat Instrumental

October 1974

    The first time I saw Mike McGear was around 1963 in the basement of a Liverpool furniture store that had permitted a number of Liverpool poets and musicians to take it over for poetry and jazz night. There just on the crest of fame were Adrian Henri, Roger McGough, John Gorman, Brian Patton, and a tall blonde lad. "That's Paul McCartney's brother," said someone, pointing.

    "Did you see me getting up on stage?"  asked Mike, looking back over an 11-year-old gulf. "That was my very first time on stage. Did you laugh? There I was, standing with my piece of paper in my hand, shaking, but I found that the people liked the comedy thing I was doing. It was then I realized, 'oh, so they're just people, there's nothing to be frightened of."

     That was the beginning of Mike's collaboration with Gorman and Co. in the music/poetry/comedy band Scaffold, which, riding on the crest of the Beatles' fame, brought Liverpool humor to every corner of Britain and to some unsuspecting audiences abroad. It's difficult to think what an American audience could possibly have made of their first enormous hit, penned by Mike,  "Thank U Very Much". It even baffled a lot of Britons, including our kid, brother Paul, who didn't believe it set a chance on the charts.

     "Paul and I have always been brutally honest with each other. He said, 'Don't put that out as a single, the public won't get it. They won't understand.' And I said, 'Well, you've got your opinion, and I've got mine. It's going ahead.' He replied, 'Well, I think you're stupid. It's going to be to your detriment', as I was determined to carry on with it. 

    "He helped in the production, which is why that record got a bit more in the production than there is normally on our records. He's got a very good head for music. When the record was a hit, all he said was, 'All right, mate, I was wrong.'"

     Of course, there was always a bit of friendly rivalry between brothers, but it must have been terrible having one as famous as Paul. After the initial glow of basking in the shadow of McCartney's fame had died down, it must have been very difficult for McGear to shake off all the tags and be accepted on his own merit, instead of being accused of letting Paul help him along. "I suppose in the first days of Paul's success, I did feel a bit under his shadow," Mike confessed. "It's quite a cross to bear having a famous brother. You get a bit bored with the tags, but then the same sort of thing often happens in families. Lots of people feel under the shadow of an older brother or sister.

     "You have to say, 'I'm not just Paul's brother, I'm me.'" Was it Paul who inspired Mike to write in the early days? "No, I never wrote at all when I was a kid; our kid had all that wrapped up, going round everywhere with his guitar and things."

      Was Mike ever actually jealous of his brother? "No, why should I have been? When the Beatles started getting really successful, Brian Epstein said to me, 'Do you want to be a pop star?' And I said, 'Brian, my dear, you must be joking.'"

     When you talk to Mike, it's as if you're on stage with him and he's including you in his comedy act. He talks, not so much in a string of words, but in a series of scenes. In fact, it's very hard to put down on paper exactly what the man says, just because he is so expressive. Everything is accompanied by gestures, movements, changes of accent, and intonation. 

    Yet initially, the words"show business" were anathema to him. Instead, he wanted to go to art college, and ended up at the point where he joined Scaffold --as an apprentice hairdresser! "I certainly didn't intend to be a pop singer, in a way, but I got interested in the theater side of it, sketches and things, and it was very satisfying. And I went off on that tangent while Paul did his music."

     The two brothers seem extremely different in personality. Perhaps that's why McGear's determination to follow his own ideas, and not join with Paul or follow in his footsteps, has brought him to the point where he is completely accepted in his own right. Changing his name from the family one to McGear was a first step in this direction. 

    Yet he and Paul are still very close with the friendly rivalry and intuitive sensitivity about each other that is only found within families. He has worked closely with Paul on his new solo album (the title hasn't been decided upon at the time of our interview), and he found that working together was entirely easygoing. "I think it was because we are brothers, and being brothers, we are a darn sight more honest with each other than people are in normal working relationships, but it was very rewarding as well."

    As well as Mike asking Paul's opinion on his music, it turns out that the rules are frequently reversed, with Paul asking Mike's opinion, which, as they are so honest with each other, sometimes leads to awkward situations.

    "When I know my opinion is not going to be a good one, I just keep quiet, and he knows, I mean, it can hit a bit hard when someone's putting their whole thing into something and really believes in it, and the other person doesn't like it. 

    "Like that 'Helen Wheels' single, I went down to the studio, and there they were, Paul and Wings all dancing around. Paul was saying, 'Isn't it great?' And bopping up and down. And I just had to sit down and say nothing, because it did absolutely nothing to me. It was a nice little pop tune, but not where the man's head is at all. He's a very clever boy, so to waste it on that seemed a shame."

     Has Paul been a lot of help to Mike as far as writing and constructing songs is concerned? "No," replied McGear. "He's always done his songwriting and left me to mine. You know it's often quite tough."  For instance, on that Antitree iron business I told you about, one thing I wanted to know for years was to what this expression actually referred. But Mike was giving no secrets away. "If I was to tell you, I'd have to tell Harold Wilson. I learned from a very authentic source that he was literally ringing round everyone saying, (he adopts a flat Wilson accent) 'for God's sakes, what's the Antitree iron?'"

     Although Mike has become well known as a humorist, his new album shows very little of the comic side of his nature. "That's where Paul and I are different. He's always done his thing, and I've always been basically comedy. But this record is basically serious, serious pop, if pop could be serious."

     He has also been working on the new Scaffold album, which will probably be released later this month or early next. So he certainly hasn't stopped writing humorous material. He is very optimistic about its success. "We've been working on it in AIR London, producing it with a friend of mine, John Meganson. It's the best album Scaffold have ever done. Already, the B side of the new single, which will be out a few weeks before the album, is so good that it should be an A side. It's called 'Pack of Cards', based on that old song, 'Deck of Cards' that Wink Martindale one, and it has Zoot Money doing impressions of WC Fields!"

     In spite of his current enthusiasm over Scaffold, it was only their sudden hit with "Liverpool Lou" that brought him back to work with them again after a rest period, and filled him with the determination to see them doing the kind of things he thinks they ought to do, such As a  Monty, Python, type of TV show.

     Although he may be about to embark on a dazzling solo career, he wants to combine this with Scaffold. "Although doing it will require careful planning. I believe in Scaffold. I always have, and hopefully I always will. They are a unique thing, a unique thing, but the only way I'm going out on the road is when they're solid, secure, and things are definite. There's an agent coming to see me tonight about dates and things.

    "Scaffold have been through some bad times, and that's why things in the future have got to be a progression, because before we were regressing and playing to smaller and smaller places. That is what led to the situation that night in Manchester last year, where I jacked it all in. I said to myself, 'Forget it. I've had 10 years of all this', and I gave it up for eight months."

     So what brought him back after this momentous decision, doing the album with our kid ?  "The Scaffold single 'Liverpool Lou'. I became involved in all this madness again, but it's easier this time. I can see it for its madness and be more objective."

     McGear has also written a book for children about yet another bear to share the nursery bookshelf with Paddington, Rupert, and Winnie the Pooh. "It's sad, really. When the book first came out, it was during all that business over Oz and Rupert, so my poor little Roger Bear got lost in all the troubles. All together now... 'ahhhhhh!'

     The book is now being reissued to coincide with the release of the album. Mike also did the illustrations. "Oh, there's no end to this man's talent!,"He joked.  "Multimedia Mcgear, there's your title!"

     If the album takes off as well as it might, with the heart, with the hand of McCartney resting heavy upon it, in the form of co-written songs, arrangements, vocals, and instrumental backings by Wings, plus session people like drummer Gerry Conway, it will still be quite a time before we see the solo McGear take to the road. 

    "The only time I'll perform in this country, apart from with Scaffold, that is, is when I've got the people I want with me. Gerry Conway, who's just got back from a worldwide tour with Cat Stevens, has already phoned me to ask me what I'm doing.

     "You see, there's certain killer people, amazing musicians, who are friends as well, and when I've got them, I'll go on the road. I can't tell you their names at the moment, but only when they are available, only when I can play them the full screw on top artist can pay to his so-called backing group. Will I go on the road. But they won't be a backing group -- they'll be like traveling with my friends.